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Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:59:00 -
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I voted. My candidate (specific) got in. Happy enough.
Still think CSM voting should be advertised via an eve-mail. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:11:00 -
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Destoya wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote: you're not in the cfc, why would you give a flip about what we think
i am talking about the leadership of your alliance failing to do their job in affecting the metagame
I think it's pretty hilarious that you are being serious about that quote. Either that or I took the b8, good job I guess.
-1 for use of "b8"
I winced. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:18:00 -
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Maybe an annual eve-mail with a roundup similar to something found here
Simply notifying people about it would help engage people.
Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:30:00 -
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Quote:Why can't CCP only let people I like run for elections?
Then I wouldn't even have to vote.
Voting is a lot of work and it's pretty hard.
I actually rather enjoyed the CSM this year. It's the second time I have really actively engaged with it.
I listened to CZ's interviews, I read some blogs, I read some threads in the hell hole.
Unbelievably, it was part of my game experience. It's something I enjoyed doing because I enjoy playing this game.
The advertising is terrible and the block voting is predictable but I feel it is still important.
Good luck to the new CSM and thanks to the folks that have worked so hard for the last year. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:35:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Malcanis wrote:Voting is a lot of work and it's pretty hard. it is when they're asking you to pick 14 people. i literally got to about 6 or 7 candidates and went "oh **** it, i can't be bothered" hit submit, and didn't bother logging in to vote on my alts. Picking 14 isn't required, you know. You pick up to 14. The "not filling in your ballot" mockery that Weaselior is engaging in is directed at the Provibloc folks, the vast majority of which put Corebloodbrothers and literally no one else down. e with numbers: 2944 people listed Core as their first pick. 1736 of them listed no one else. By the end of the election over 800 of those votes transferred their way off into the void instead of doing anything.
Lol - how dare they vote as a bloc. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:42:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Jayem See wrote:Lol - how dare they vote as a bloc. uh it's not voting as a bloc i'm making fun of them for and I can't encourage them strongly enough to vote exactly like they did this year next year
I may be misunderstanding, certainly not an unheard of occurence, but if their objective was just to get Core into the CSM then they succeeded.
Even if every other vote they could have taken was wasted, it's still mission success for them. No? Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:47:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Dave Stark wrote: sounds like mine was wasted, which is nice to hear when voter turnout is lower than previously.
fill your ballot: people you don't really want on the csm get your votes. don't fill your ballot: your vote is wasted.
i guess it's easy to see why people can feel so apathetic towards the elections.
Well if you can't find 14 people that you do want on the CSM then you could ponder the ones you don't want on the CSM and sort in reverse. That way your vote goes to the least bad one, instead of possibly helping the ones you really don't want in.
I put in for about 8 - only 3 of them I really wanted. The rest were down to them impressing me in chats or by knowledge. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:17:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Jayem See wrote: I may be misunderstanding, certainly not an unheard of occurence, but if their objective was just to get Core into the CSM then they succeeded.
Even if every other vote they could have taken was wasted, it's still mission success for them. No?
if I give you three boxes filled with money and you trip and drop one into the river because you tied your shoelaces to each other by mistake, you've still got two boxes of money but that doesn't change that you lost an entire box full of money by being unable to tie your shoelaces
But I still have two boxes of money right? Thanks.
My lost votes are fine with me as I didn't care massively about them. Also - nobody else told me how to use them. My 8 votes were used how I saw fit. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:26:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Jayem See wrote:Weaselior wrote:Jayem See wrote: I may be misunderstanding, certainly not an unheard of occurence, but if their objective was just to get Core into the CSM then they succeeded.
Even if every other vote they could have taken was wasted, it's still mission success for them. No?
if I give you three boxes filled with money and you trip and drop one into the river because you tied your shoelaces to each other by mistake, you've still got two boxes of money but that doesn't change that you lost an entire box full of money by being unable to tie your shoelaces But I still have two boxes of money right? Thanks. My lost votes are fine with me as I didn't care massively about them. Also - nobody else told me how to use them. My 8 votes were used how I saw fit. Yup. Ignore the goon spin doctors. I voted for 8 people, even ones I disliked, but felt would counter the cartel control of the CSM. I could only find 8 of the 14 that I could stomach, and even then, I knew some were highly sympathetic to other concepts I find abhorrent. So if you see only 1 person you want on the ballot, and the rest you hate, then vote for the one, and you will be able to sleep at night.
Oh dear - please don't agree with me! Don't want that on my copy-book!
Holy **** Dinsdale - I have enough trouble.
Edit: My view is very different from Din's Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:34:00 -
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DSQ - I would say that is a perfect example of the system working as intended. One focus and a result.
I don't think Provi voted giving a turd about anyone else. Despite Weaselior thinking that the rest mattered - it doesn't - Provi achieved their aim and have a CSM.
Do I care? Not much. Do I care about the people I voted for - yep.
Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:38:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:i was going to explain more why you're all nuts but i then realized that i want you to stay this way so i will agree that you did exactly the right thing, thanks buddies
Lol - run out of arguments so will just say I am right.
Good work. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:44:00 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Jayem See wrote:Weaselior wrote:i was going to explain more why you're all nuts but i then realized that i want you to stay this way so i will agree that you did exactly the right thing, thanks buddies Lol - run out of arguments so will just say I am right. Good work. when your argument is "i was being willfully obtuse due to laziness and/or mental defect" then we are more than happy to let you be right
I didn't mean me smartypants.  Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:51:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Jayem See wrote:Weaselior wrote:i was going to explain more why you're all nuts but i then realized that i want you to stay this way so i will agree that you did exactly the right thing, thanks buddies Lol - run out of arguments so will just say I am right. Good work. you were right, I was wrong to criticize your voting strategy please accept my apology and inform everyone else that you were correct
Carry on being told how to vote by someone else and realise that this is just a game. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:57:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Jayem See wrote: Carry on being told how to vote by someone else and realise that this is just a game.
you are right all, i was wrong to suggest you should vote for more than one person. please accept my sincere apologies, and i hope you vote according to your view of strategy next year and not mine sincerely, weaselior
Not entirely sure how we ended up in an internet crapfest.
I voted for the folks that I cared about. Mynnna was one of them - I didn't vote for your top candidate as bragging isn't my thing.
I didn't feel strongly enough about the other candidates to vote negatively. Sorry. (Am not sorry.)
Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:30:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Jayem See wrote:Weaselior wrote:Jayem See wrote: Carry on being told how to vote by someone else and realise that this is just a game.
you are right all, i was wrong to suggest you should vote for more than one person. please accept my sincere apologies, and i hope you vote according to your view of strategy next year and not mine sincerely, weaselior Not entirely sure how we ended up in an internet crapfest. I voted for the folks that I cared about. Mynnna was one of them - I didn't vote for your top candidate as bragging isn't my thing. I didn't feel strongly enough about the other candidates to vote negatively. Sorry. (Am not sorry.) Totally sounds like you missed the point of everything that was said, but ah well. The point seems to be that people who chose to vote for a single individual could have used at least some of their other voting slots to vote for people who they wanted after the first, or failing that, opposition to people who they don't want. They was STV work, the votes cascade when full, so if the person you vote in 1st place makes it in, you listing 13 other people won't affect that in the slightest, but what it will mean is that more excess votes will filter down the vote afterwards. So if you wanted only 1 person and no other people you cared about either way, then voting with just 1 vote is fine. In all other cases there are smarter ways to play your votes. Now nobody is saying that you personally can't vote however you want. You can wipe your ass with the ballot for all I care, but as a group, there were smarter ways for it to be played.
You are cute when you are angry.
I seem to be missing something from Weasel - he refuses to tell me what it is yet.
I DID vote how I wanted - as stated many posts ago. The not using my last 6 votes was a comment in itself. FFS - why is it so hard to realise that voting in an STV system (when not in a bloc) can work out both ways? Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:49:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Jayem See wrote:You are cute when you are angry.
I seem to be missing something from Weasel - he refuses to tell me what it is yet.
I DID vote how I wanted - as stated many posts ago. The not using my last 6 votes was a comment in itself. FFS - why is it so hard to realise that voting in an STV system (when not in a bloc) can work out both ways? Yup, I'm super mad. Grrrr, and all that. And it's great that you voted how you wanted. When you are suddenly representative of everybody, let me know. the point is there are a lot of people who vote by saying "I want that one person", then don;t finish their ballots. They don't realise they can use the rest of their votes without affecting their first vote, possibly even thinking a sole vote has more weight than a full ballot. Realistically people can vote not only for people but against others. Exhausting your vote is not a way to do that, it's a way of you pulling out completely, leaving the rest of the vote up to the full ballot bloc voters, so thanks for that I suppose.
I would hope that the bloc vote for Core, knew what that meant. To deride it as stupid is just ridiculous.
Even if they missed out on the opportunity to vote for a bunch of folks they never heard of, why would they?
I took my time and voted on knowledge, profile and communication skills. I took one very clear non-vote on the way one candidate communicated.
As usual with you Lucas, I am not sure what you are arguing for. Speaking of which... Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:09:00 -
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Lemming Alpha1dash1 wrote:Perhaps the Broader Community to raise a(ny) awareness of the CSM is shrinking ? 
Not sure the broader comuunity has a(ny) idea about this. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Jayem See
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:15:00 -
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Freelancer117 wrote:Two step wrote:Seems like the logical conclusion is that CSM 7 was the best CSM, and everything since then has been downhill. Hmm, which CSM was the last one I was on again?  As a small part of the community, I am aware you raised a lot of awareness for CCPgames to "fix" pos  We can kid all we want Two Step, but the question I raise is sadly a legitimate one. Issues that have possibly been addressed by Seagull.
It's going to take years. Several of them. There are things that have to be done first. Patience young Padawan. Aaaaaaand relax. |
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